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Phil
01-23-2003, 06:29 PM
As Jim has said, The Getaway has become one of the largest gaming controvises of recent times. I'm bored of seeing so many posts on other forums about "is this better than GTA?" and "sony spend 3 years and gamespot only gave it 6.9!"...

So, you fall into one of three catagories: 1) I think it's brilliant 2) It's good, but nothing special 3) It's terrible

I gave The Getaway 10 out of 10 in all three catagories and the Game Of The Year Award. Obviously I sit firmly in the first catagory of people. I think it's awesome, but more on that later. Thunderbolt's score is the highest rating on the internet that I've seen, with the lowest being 5. My scoring is justified - just read the review, the feature and what I've written here to find out why.

I think we should try to settle the arguement here, away from all of the <insert console name here> fanboys.

Anyway, here's my case for The Getaway:

Let's forget about GTA for now. Wipe it clean from your memory. Now take a deep breath and think of all of the aspects of The Getaway:

A whole city at the tips of your fingers

That's right, a whole city. OK, it's not perfectly re-created, but if you learnt the city from the game, you'd be able to navigate it fairly well in real life. The scale of the level is immense. Never before has this been tried, not in a real city anyway. They could have stuck with a fictional city, but they opted for a challenge; to make this game run on PS2, to make it work, to prove the critics wrong. And they have. I expect that other developers may follow and that we'll see more of this in the future. That's just one of the groundbreaking features of The Getaway though; yes, there's more:

There's no HUD!

No health bars, radars, ammo counters, timers, text boxes. Nothing. It's such a simple thing but it makes a huge difference. It feels like you are playing in a movie, an interactive one. I'd love to see this in other games - it makes developers think of new ideas; ways to communicate data to us without using numbers and words.

New motion-capture techniques and facial details

Watch any of the cut scenes and you'll be amazed by the realism of the character's faces, the way they move and interact with each other. It's the most realistic cut scenes I've ever seen and I think we'll see more like this in the future.

The on-foot gun battles

On foot you will experience the most viceral gun battles you've ever seen. Duck behind a crate, then roll out, shoot one guy, grab his mate and use him as a human shield as you take the others down. Finish him off by brutally snapping his neck then move on for more. You can't help but want to play them again and again. The Getaway also allows you to auto-aim or manual aim. Ok, it's another small detail, but details like that are what makes this game so good.

The driving sections

Oh my God! The cars don't handle exactly the same as another famous game in this genre! Ok, but it's not trying to be another game, is it? The driving sections show us just the type of gameplay that made Driver so damn good. Proper Police chases through the back alleys of cities, dodging the cops left, right and centre. Your heart will be pupping as you just get away from the cops as you thunder past Buckingham Palace....it's such an exhilarating experience that you're likely to forget quickly.

The rest

What's left? Well, there's the DVD style menu and many visual options that you'd usually see in a movie, a great plot and excellent voice acting. There's also the free roaming mode so you can go off and explore and the ability to replay missions, which you will do once you've played through some of them.



It's OK, you can think about GTA now. I could go on, comparing them, but at the end of the day, they're two completly different styles of games. I'll quote someone on the GameFaqs forum here, "The Getaway is to Vice City as Gran Turismo is to ATV Offroad Fury". That's so true that it just sums it up really.

I think The Getaway is the most under-rated game of recent times and it deserves to get better recognition. As I've said before, "The Getaway is a glimpse of the future, a taste of what's to come. Play this, and you won't think about games in the same way again." You have to recognise the revolutionary features and concepts that Sony have put in The Getaway, and how they will affect future games. Do this and you will see why I and others rate this so highly.

James
01-24-2003, 11:23 AM
im going to be a right pain in the back side here. i fall between categories 1 and 2. it is something special but something is lacking from taking it all the way.

the reason people shy away from it is because they try to play it like gta. i actually prefer TG now, but still enjoy gta with its more humorous aproach to the gangster world.

jim
01-24-2003, 12:30 PM
I'm from completely the other stance - so let's debate!

Yes, they have mapped alot of central london. I live and work in central london and i can tell you that it's not quite as they've said. There's a high percentage of repetition in the shopfronts and alot of the buildings are either not there or are just plain wrong. i've got 5 (count 'em 5) mates who work in the area and none of them could find their office building :(

Alot of backstreets are missing. It's very funny coz we're all londoners so know the shortcuts, but they're not there! they did get a decent amount of porn shop covers in though, so that's nice :)

But where are all the people? I think it's like 28 days later - there's hardly ever anyone on the streets!

The car handling is not good too, it's so twitchy but despite this the driving sections fell too easy. eh?

No HUD - that's cool, but not the first game ever to do that, is it? Didn't golden eye have no damage counter on the screen? dunno - clutching at straws

the faces look good, agreed, but the walky shooting bits are rubbish! It's so easy to get shot at, you just can't see it coming! The guys from PSW hit the nail on the head. On a demo even the program developers could avoid taking a few hits, what? That's crazy! I find the controls far too limiting - does anyone remember games with revolutionary easy controls, stuff like the first Tenchu? I'd go as far as to say i think i actually prefer tomb raider...

So, it may look good, have great attention to detail and a swish menu, but with out a solid game engine, it's just not going to go down as a classic, no way.

Mark my words, Driver 3 is going to blow this game away...

Phil
01-24-2003, 05:59 PM
Well, it is the first game with no HUD, as Goldeneye had a ammo counter and when you got shot, a health bar appeared.

The car handling is fine after you get used to it, and I thouroughly enjoy the chases...

James
01-26-2003, 01:01 PM
i totaly agree with you, but i find it fun cos its just different- so many games based in america and this is the first one set in london (except for gta london-bag o ****e)

living in north yorkshire is quite depressing also, sometimes i get quite homesick, so this game is literally home for me. so yeah its got dodgy bits but it also could be a lot worse

Phil
01-26-2003, 01:40 PM
The Getaway is like Marmite - you either love it or hate it

jim
01-27-2003, 05:45 PM
I hate the getaway and marmite. My girlfriend always thinks it's funny to eat marmite then try to snog me. I literally puked once - no kidding...

no, i find it quite irritating all round.

I wonder.... I've noticed all the older gamers (if you're in your twenties and game you are an older gamer!) hate the getaway, and all the younger gamers like it.

Is that a sweeping generalisation? it's the same for Mortal Kombat - my nephew's been playing a crack copy for a few weeks too and he loves it. When i tried to point out all the inadequancies to him he'd say "No Uncle Jim look, he just ripped his head off"

Err, okay. I couldn't argue...

Maybe the younger generation are more forgiving? Is that a good topic to start to discuss???

Phil
01-27-2003, 05:58 PM
yeah, I'd say that that is too big a generalisation...but maybe you're right.

James
01-27-2003, 08:16 PM
us young 'uns know what cool is 8)

unlike you old fogies :lol: :wink:

Phil
01-27-2003, 10:02 PM
lol :P :D :lol: :wink:

jim
01-28-2003, 05:44 PM
Why you little...

jim
01-28-2003, 05:45 PM
Okay - i take that back.

What are you guys playing at the mo? I've been fairly hooked on burnout 2 recently, for no apparent reason....

Phil
01-28-2003, 06:46 PM
Xbox LIVE; so addictive :twisted: 8) :D

Anyway, staying on topic here, um...I've been playing through the later half of The Getaway - I think I'm on mission 20 now.

James
01-28-2003, 07:05 PM
iv been turning fulham into world beaters (not alot of work required!) on cm02/03.

other games include virtua striker, big mutha truckers and advance wars.

big diasapointment for the month is red faction2. i got it in a sale for 20 quid. i heard the graphics were good, but they really are crap. timesplitters, halo (of course) and even the aging quake 3 make it look mincemeat.

but i aint had much time on games these last few weeks cos of work and my new gf (finally!)

jim
01-29-2003, 12:21 PM
Hey! Kyle's getting laid - good for him.

Don't move in with her, whatever you do...

Phil
01-29-2003, 08:52 PM
...yeah, look what happened to Jim! :P :wink:

jim
01-30-2003, 06:16 PM
tell me about it.

Still, when you reach my age, boys, it pays to put a bit of time in with a lady. Mine is a few years younger (nootch) and think's the sun shines out of my arse.

Which it does, on a clear day.

Hey - when is this 4.5 thing happening? I want to read the new stuff!!!

Phil
01-30-2003, 07:08 PM
Short answer: Monday

Long answer: Should be done by Monday. Larry just needs to sort out the last few pages. I'm running the news sections in parallel at the moment, although 4.5 has a few exclusives (wow! :roll: ). The advanced contribution system will be out sometime after, but I can't give you a date on that yet...

James
02-01-2003, 10:03 PM
i must agree with jim!

but lady's get upset easily in a relationship. just cos i forgot to hug my gf after work tonight shes got all upset and was crying doen the phone thinking i didn't love her anymore! WTF?

one hug causes havoc? i need a feminine (SP) side she says. anyone know where to get one?

does ebay do them?

Phil
02-01-2003, 10:05 PM
Yeah, probably!

I mean, there's been a 'PS3' :roll: on there for $700,000!

jim
02-04-2003, 01:44 PM
That hug after work thing - that's the **** side of a relationship.

I wqas rubbish for years, really good at the chat up, terrible at the long term relationship thang.

Then i got my act together.

but it's like this :

girl's want companionship, understanding, love, compatability, tenderness, yakkity yak...

boys want sex.

some things never change :)

meman
02-04-2003, 08:25 PM
Straying back to the origional topic:

I Finally managed to complete it, it took me ages but i did, anyway i think it was good but nothing special.
Although it was a nice touch with no HUD

jim
02-05-2003, 11:53 AM
oh yeah, the getaway.

Well, i'm sure that's been done before, the lack of HUD thing. I can't think what on though.

i still find it hard to believe people are actually playing it though...

Phil
02-05-2003, 02:52 PM
Nah, I hasn't been done before. Not where there's a complete lack of a HUD.

jim
02-06-2003, 06:14 PM
Oh yes it has!

(oh no it hasn't...

oh yes it has!)

and so on...

Phil
02-06-2003, 06:38 PM
:P He's behind you!

James
02-07-2003, 10:21 PM
jonny mosly mad trix had no hud

James
02-07-2003, 10:24 PM
oh wait- that was the point when i ripped the ps2 from its leads and threw it into the street cos mad trix SUCKED!

i wondered why the tv screen went blank...

Phil
02-07-2003, 10:29 PM
lol :D

Kobold Warrior
05-24-2003, 01:36 PM
I have yet to play this game, but Philip has inspiried me to check it out. I always just thought it looked like a GTA clone...that and the bad reviews caused me to shy away from it.